Commander Vorak
 Commander
Science Officer
Live long and prosper...
Posts: 1,657
|
Post by Commander Vorak on Apr 22, 2007 1:59:10 GMT
Prominate roles are judged by activity not postion. In TNG the helm role was the smallest on the show yet on Voyager and TOS is it a main role.
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 22, 2007 2:06:05 GMT
thats true, but thats kinda a dodgey one (pardon my australian langauge there), i mean engineering was always important in every show i can think of it was.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rudger McVanlen on Apr 22, 2007 3:14:48 GMT
yup, as i remember engineering was always the guy ranks right below the first officer. and almost always a Lt. Cmdr
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 22, 2007 3:19:43 GMT
not true, in TOS, that is correct, Scotty was the Second Officer, however in TNG Data was the Second Officer, and Geordi wasn't even after him, Worf was 'third' officer (see Gamit Part II, Season 7 Star Trek: The Next Generation). In DS9 Worf came in as the second officer I believe, not entirely sure about that. VOY I think Tuvok was the Second Officer, thou I could be wrong, and in ENT u r correct again, Commander Tucker being second officer
so its not always the case, but is so on many occassions.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rudger McVanlen on Apr 22, 2007 6:25:05 GMT
true, but thats just cause in the two times that the engineering officers wereint they were selected as i remember. Neither were very high and yet they got their posts, i think it was for the storys sake it was set up like that. I mean it would make sence that not all ships follow the standard, and that the standard is that the secend officer is the engineering officer. IMO atleast.
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 22, 2007 6:37:02 GMT
yes, strictly your opinion, as it wouldn't be standard at all, I think its pretty clear that nothing is standard, and that practically anything goes.
But on smaller ships, u dont even need a Captain ranked to be the Captain, I mean look at Captain Picard when he was on the Stargazer, he took command at what? Lt.? Lt.cmdr maybe?
And then the first officer might only have been a lieutenant or even a jnr grade lieutenant for such a small vessel.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rudger McVanlen on Apr 22, 2007 19:26:35 GMT
true, it realy depends on the size of the ship. however the lowest command rank is cmdr i think. simply because thats how its always been done. Normaly commanders command smaller ships while captains command the rest. and some ships are declaired flags and have a captain AND an admiral. but to the point i still think that engineer should normaly be the secend officer, because he/she should be the highest under the first officer.
but anyway clark rarely posts and the position is important even if its held by an ensign. It's one of the most important rolls on the ship, and needs a highly active player.
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 22, 2007 21:15:12 GMT
well obviously (I haven't check the CoC lately but im sure its outta date) Jade is second officer on our ship, to be honest, I think the engineer is really too busy to hold the role of second officer, I think it should be reserved for a bridge officer. But on the other hand, Scotty and Tucker both did good jobs when they were both positions, I guess that its alright, but my preference still stands
|
|
|
|
Post by Lt Matina Jade on Apr 23, 2007 17:42:06 GMT
Clark should not be delted, he is an active member
|
|
Daniel Clark
 Lieutenant
Chief Engineering Officer
"These are the times that test mens Souls"
Posts: 761
|
Post by Daniel Clark on Apr 23, 2007 18:06:55 GMT
Thank You jade
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 23, 2007 20:37:25 GMT
Oh no, I didn't mean to say that clark should be deleted (I hope John got this part) I just thought that as he has done less than 200 posts in jan, feb, mar, apr, 4 months I thought if he could just be reminded, ont nessecarily deleted, then maybe we could get him to be a more active poster again.
|
|
|
|
Post by Rudger McVanlen on Apr 23, 2007 21:03:25 GMT
ya, i never ment he should be deleted either. Just poked with a large stick and reminded to post more=P
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 23, 2007 21:44:20 GMT
Thats good, I thought that that was the case, I expected that you would understand what I meant, just a reminder guys, if you've read up till now and realise your name is on that list for any reason (other than of course immunity lol) please speak up.
If you were one of the members that Karl and or the Captian said should go, and you do visit the site often, but are struggling to post, talk to us, put it here if you want, just tell us the problems your facing and so forth and we'll look into it, just remember some members might not be able to do this, such as the guys that have never posted, ever, or like guys who posted a request for a position and haven't done anything with it.
I mean I can understand how some people shouldn't be deleted because of all the posts they have done, but could we atleast demote some people? We have like a whole band of people who are Lt jnr grd and have done nothing, and then we have all these npc ensigns that have outposted them, I think they should 'atleast' be demoted dont you guys?
|
|
|
|
Post by Rudger McVanlen on Apr 23, 2007 23:25:12 GMT
Mabey, it depends on their postition realy. though a few should be demoted.
|
|
|
|
Post by zepplin on Apr 23, 2007 23:32:15 GMT
Like for example, Ben54, he applied for wing commander, and almost never used it, granted, its a difficult role, and the guys got aspergers, but I dont think he should be a lt grd, and that other bloke, greg the flt lt. what happened to him? there are heaps of members like that
|
|
Lt Commander
Lieutenant
