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Post by Beathan MacAinmire on May 2, 2007 1:24:37 GMT
Any field can lead to command. infact all fields do, if you stay in long enough you can reach command as any field. Besides who cares if pilots are low ranked, they still get to fly the ship. and they don't have to cut people open and crap... personaly medical sucks, i mean ome on you would have to learn about 1000s of races and how to fix them and stuff. plus you would have to see guts and stuff, and i practicly faint at the hint of blood lol. You dont have to 'open' ppl to be a doctor. You couls be a therapiste, a phycologiest, evan justa nurse, and you can potentialy overule evan the Prime Minister
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 2, 2007 2:42:02 GMT
ya, but only if another doctor agrees with you. And starfleet can strip a doctor of his powers.. theres safeties set so doctors can't abuse their power, and over ruleing the captain can get you canned if it turns out you were wrong.
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Post by zepplin on May 2, 2007 8:06:05 GMT
Actualy all fields lead to command as I said, it dosin't mean they stay an officer in their field. I belive it's done by rank, you hit captain and auto-maticly change to command. Of course I'm just guessing since that would make sence but its a TV show so who knows=P Umm John, no offence, but that sounds like bull dust if you ask me. In the real world there are plenty of colonels that aren't in command, likewise, plenty of captains aren't in command such as Scotty "...as 'Captain' of Engineering." and what exactly do you mean 'an officer in there field?' are you saying that they change department? that makes alot of sense if 'that's' what you mean, because there are some departments that are clearly not designed to jump to Captain, such as Records Officer, Specialized science role's, those sort of positions aren't logically a lead up to command in general, let alone command in a starship.
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Post by Will Litchfield on May 2, 2007 13:37:50 GMT
But, if you try hard enough in most departments you can get to command or further...yes?
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 2, 2007 19:42:49 GMT
What i mean is when you hit the rank of captain you have to have your own command, or be waiting for one. There can't be a chief medical officer whos a captain. or any other postition for that matter. a ship can only have one captain. As such anyone promoted to the rank of captain is transfered to command and givin a ship, station, outpost ect.
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Post by zepplin on May 2, 2007 23:31:34 GMT
I just proved to you that that philosophy is flawed. Captain Kirk Captain Spock Captain Scott etc
There are clearly more than one captain in star treks V and VI, all three were at the rank of Captain, Spock, who either denied Command, or ofcourse he was already in a command position you might say and he just stayed where he was, Scotty, he didn't get offered a ship, he was needed to push off the Excelsior, then he kept his rank.
I still dont quite get ya.
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 3, 2007 2:18:41 GMT
Ohh, well then that was another of star treks folleys. They were addicted to haveing high ranked officers in droves. hence why in the show they would have 3-4 commanders ect. I mean during the later shows/movies the people were too highly ranked. A ship should have one captain and then the rest of the crew. depending on how big changes the ranks and how many guy of each there are. but star trek tended to want to have lots of high ranked officers on the same ship. entill VOY where they corrected it by haveing everybody be low ranked. The silly wirghters of star trek should have allowed others to deal with the ranks and departments. Because if they had there wouldin't be anyone saying star trek sucks, and i would love it more. but as it is star trek isin't the best show do to its wrighters lack of design skills. they still have great story skills, but as far as designing rank systems and laws/regs and departments they sucked.
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Post by zepplin on May 3, 2007 10:08:10 GMT
I don't think that they had too many high ranked officers, I think that it was very well proportioned, sure, star trek IV V, well that was slightly off balance, but it still wasn't too bad, you could see the officers moving on in star trek VI, sulu in command of the excelsior, things like that, TNG? I mean really that was perfect, one captain, two, then later three commanders, a couple of lt jg, who became lt cmdrs and data a lt cmdr, it was perfectly structured, even in star trek gen, when they promoted worf, I mean really, with over 1000 people on board, 200+ officers, you should have all of your 'senior staff' in senior ranks, I thought that ensign was way too low a rank for operations personally, but that wasn't done correctly remember, that only occured because most of the crew were killed and then integrated into one crew, so of course your only going to be able to spare an ensign.
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Post by Beathan MacAinmire on May 3, 2007 19:20:41 GMT
An no you dont need a second Doctors opinion. McKoy, Beverly and the Docto have releaved ther captains of ther dutys and the reaction is that ether the captain folows or he dosent.
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Post by zepplin on May 3, 2007 20:49:09 GMT
I apologize, I didn't realise I was arguing against that fact. I support that 100% as that is one of their primary duties.
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 4, 2007 1:41:08 GMT
well of course, when dealing with one ship a doctor can do that. but a doctor can't do anything about other ships, space stations/planits. to do so would need more doctors. and most likely an admiral who used to be a doctor aswell.
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Post by Beathan MacAinmire on May 4, 2007 2:24:43 GMT
meh, my point still remains
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Post by Commander Vorak on May 4, 2007 20:35:04 GMT
I would have to say command because I like to lead the story in some way and do things for the sites
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Post by Will Litchfield on May 18, 2007 6:43:15 GMT
Thats an interesting view.
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Post by Lisa Rogers on May 26, 2007 23:17:34 GMT
I think I like my department the best. Its not too hard a job, and you know exactly what you have to do the entire time, and I would say that this position does lead to command, I think, like in star trek two how Chekov was the first officer, does that count?
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