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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 27, 2007 1:21:22 GMT
Well all positions lead to command because you are command as soon as you hit captain. So realy they all do, but i think operations normaly leads to command in most cases.
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Post by zepplin on May 27, 2007 6:37:02 GMT
John, I told you on the previous page why that philosophy is incorrect, you don't get given command as soon as you hit Captain, lets clear that up, that doesn't happen.
And Lisa, Star Trek II: TWOK doesn't count because as you should be aware, Chekov by then was a Science Officer, not a Navigator such as yourself.
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 27, 2007 8:45:06 GMT
actualy since a captain can only command and cant serve under anyone else (enless hes on an admirals flag) then when you are promoted to captain even if you arein't given a command of your own you are simply put on a waiting list for a ship to need a new captain. so yes all captains are in command. you dont find them being an officer on a ship under another captain now do you?
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Post by Lisa Rogers on May 27, 2007 8:50:59 GMT
But hang on, John? is it? What about Scotty and Spock, like Conor pointed out, they both served under Captain Kirk, I mean at first he was an Admiral, granted, but I must agree with Conor, your theory doesn't hold true to the facts... well as in the movie facts, which are as close to facts as you can get for star trek.
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 27, 2007 9:03:28 GMT
*Kills Star treks movie wrighters and re-rights star trek movies with proper ranks and CoC*
not anymore... lol j/k but realy i can't belive they put captains under another captain...never in the histery of the worlds navies have they done that...
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Post by Lisa Rogers on May 27, 2007 9:30:14 GMT
How do you know? I mean in most CoCs they have seniority within it, and when Admiral Kirk was demoted two steps to Captain, he would automatically become the highest ranking Captain, not the lowest of course, and Star Treks a bit different from the Navy John
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 27, 2007 20:57:15 GMT
actualy in every millitary service i know (witch is what star treks rank systems are based on) they kick you back to either the seniority you had when you were that rank last. Or all the way back to the lowest of that rank because its a punishment. They arein't going to make you a senior officer if their trying to teach you a lesson now are they? That wouldin't make sence, so even though star trek dosin't do it that way it should.
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Post by zepplin on May 27, 2007 21:54:36 GMT
Well what should and what is are two different things, its quite clear, after going over the same thing twice john, that, captains do not recieve ships as soon as they reach Captain, that is obviously not the case, with plenty of Captains filling other roles such as science medical and engineering, on a starshipor starbase, so they clearly don't
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Post by Rudger McVanlen on May 27, 2007 22:00:00 GMT
when have you seen a captain on a spacestation doing those? i haveint. and i haveint watched every episode but still atleast a few 100 eipsodes of the differint series and i still dont remember ever seeing a captain acting as a staff officer aboard anything.
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Post by zepplin on May 28, 2007 7:25:51 GMT
You've got to be joking me? OK, here's one, remember that TNG episode 'The First Duty'? The one where Weasley Crusher crashed his ship, yeah yeah, ok well remember that 'Captain' Vulcan? He didn't have a ship, so at the academy they have them, and also what about officers who are on staff for roles other than starships, john, you've got to get your head aroudn the fact that starfleet isn't just the ships, just like the navy today, isn't just about the ships, sure, the ships are the main thing here, and in the real US Navy, but it isn't the key tihng, and plenty of Colonels/Captains in real life AND in Star Trek, do not have roles that are of a captaincy, lets move on 'finally' shall we?
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Post by Commander Vorak on May 28, 2007 23:13:43 GMT
Captains can still serve on a ship so long as they are under a Admiral
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Post by zepplin on May 29, 2007 3:51:54 GMT
Yep, or under a Captain who outranks them, such as Kirk to Scotty and Spock, and just as you could be one and still have Kynes as a Captain too
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Post by Captain Alexander Kynes on Jun 25, 2007 21:05:22 GMT
I'd have to say my favourite department is Science. Lots of stuff to do there. If we ever have a full active sim in the future, I want to be chief science, or executive.
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Post by Flt Lt Greg "HITMAN" Campbell on Jul 1, 2007 3:32:55 GMT
my fav would have 2 be ned or flight because both hav equally good points about them, as mentioned , med get to outrank anyone, in certain curcumstances but flight gives you that sense of controll which med dousnt offer and of course, without flight, there would be no movement because , each action has an equal and opposite reaction
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Post by Lt Matina Jade on Jul 11, 2007 23:55:41 GMT
Secuirty, I am the law!
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